Let's Talk BIG 10

[dusingfan]

Who's moving up? Who's moving down? Who's moving on to NCAA's?

[HuggyBear]

Northwestern, a top 12 team two years ago, has zero returning NCAA qualifiers. Hopefully that program can turn itself around because it's a great school and had a number of great swimmers (Grevers, Bubolz, Alexandrov).

[sree]

imho i feel one factor that has hurt northwestern is how well grevers has done since moving to zona to train. Im not saying that everyone is like grevers and not knocking how fast he was at northwestern but I believe he took his swimming to a whole new level after his switch. I feel like recruits or other swimmers take notice of that change corresponding with his move...then again some recruits these days may be too young to have been paying attention to college swimming 4-8 years ago to know that. I too hope northwestern turns it around. Jw...what big name recruits have they gotten the last few years? (i know they got charlie rimkus this past year)

[dusingfan]

Northwestern loses to Indiana 167-131

Any reason why Eric Ress wasn't swimming?

[dusingfan]

Minnesota Men and Women top Wisconsin

1. Minnesota 179 2. Wisconsin 121

1. Minnesota 198 2. Wisconsin 101

Indiana at Texas:

Texas: 179 Indiana: 149

[swimpop]

Indiana at Texas:

Texas: 179 Indiana: 149

These results don't include the women. This was a Double Dual meet for the women with Texas, Indiana, and Michigan competing.

Women's results;
Texas 222 Indiana 162
Texas 235 Michigan 149
Indiana 215 Michigan 174

[ctweymou]

Northwestern loses to Indiana 167-131

Any reason why Eric Ress wasn't swimming?

Eric Ress, along with Cody Weik and Jim Barberie, are redshirting this year. Rumor has it that Looze doesn't want to waste this talented trio of swimmer's eligibility on this year's team, which isn't expected to do much. With next year's decent recruiting class he probably figures he can challenge for the next few year's Big Tens.

I was disappointed to see the trio redshirting as I was high on IU this year.

ctweymou

[Red Shadow]

What??? ctweymou "high on IU?" Again? No wayyyy
Remember where that got you last year bud.

[ctweymou]

Ha, where did it get me? So what, I'm passionate about IU swimming!

ctweymou (IU swim fan)

[dusingfan]

Eric Ress, along with Cody Weik and Jim Barberie, are redshirting this year.

That's dumb.

[ctweymou]

I agree! Let 'em swim.

ctweymou

[swimpop]

Wow. If Ray Looze only knew he had people available to help him with the tough coaching decisions I'm sure he would love to bring you in as consultants whenever he has difficult decisions to make.

[ctweymou]

Wow. If Ray Looze only knew he had people available to help him with the tough coaching decisions I'm sure he would love to bring you in as consultants whenever he has difficult decisions to make.

Ok, I'll rephrase.

"I'm disappointed".

You are right, I don't know the circumstances of why Looze redshirted Ress, Weik, Barberie and Cordes so I don't know whether it was the right thing for the swimmers or the team. But I am disappointed to hear that they are redshirted. I think IU has a good group of current swimmers and these 4 would have added much strength, especially Ress and Weik. However, I think we'll still have a decent team.

ctweymou

[Swimwhammy]

I have no idea why any coach would redshirt their best swimmers. Maybe the rumor is just that, a rumor -- but if there is truth to it, the redshirting move is irresponsible on a few fronts:

1st: it shows the rest of team, in particular the seniors, that you have no confidence in them. I'm all for being realistic, but sometimes you've got to go with what you've got. I wonder what the rest of the seniors think about this move.

2nd: it shows the IU athletic department as well as the IU administration that the coach values the 5th year of school -- which is not payed for my the athletic department -- it's payed for by the school. I know most student-athletes take a fifth year, but if it's the norm (and it's public) -- they are going to lose some recruits. Kids may go along with it, but parents may not.

[PurpleKnight]

...it shows the IU athletic department as well as the IU administration that the coach values the 5th year of school -- which is not payed for my the athletic department -- it's payed for by the school...

You are absolutely wrong on this point. The 5th year scholarship does not count against the NCAA Limit; however it is still paid for by the Athletic Department, not the University General Scholarship Funds.